After catching up on current events; Jay and Danny welcome Mindforce | Pillars Of Ivory vocalist Jay Peta. Jay talks about how their debut full-length, Excalibur, came together. We dive into his new project, Pillars Of Ivory, which also features Death Threat vocalist Aaron Butkus; Hudson valley hardcore, Mindforce touring plans, mutual love of hip-hop and seeing himself in the "Kings At Crime" CD layout back in the day.