Recorded on Tuesday 13th of April, as the shops open in the UK, and England is heading to the beer gardens. The roll out of the vaccination programme has completed its first phase, and second doses have been given to the most vulnerable people - and now the under 50s are starting to get their first doses.

In this podcast, Duncan Jarvies, multimedia editor for The BMJ, talks to; Partha Kar, consultant in diabetes and endocrinology in Portsmouth, Matt Morgan, a consultant in a intensive care medicine in Cardiff, and Helen Salisbury, GP in Oxfordshire.

The genomicc trial Matt mentions is still recruiting - if you're interested more detail is available here https://genomicc.org/