Carlo is joined by Axios national energy correspondent Amy Harder to unpack how the AI boom is rapidly reshaping America’s energy system and sidelining climate politics. They dig into the explosive rise of AI data centers, why the power grid isn’t built to handle the demand, and the growing push to take data centers off‑grid. Harder explains why natural gas is winning for now, why nuclear, carbon capture, and even fusion are getting a second look, and how Trump’s energy agenda is accelerating a major shift. The race to power AI, she argues, may end up forcing the clean‑energy breakthroughs that politics couldn’t deliver.

Harder Line: https://www.amyharder.com/?utm_campaign=profile_chips  

Podcast: https://climate.uchicago.edu/shocked/ 

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