We discuss chapter 9: Assume That The Person You Are Listening To Might Know Something You Don’t from 12 Rules For Life: An Antidote For Chaos by Jordan B. Peterson. Pat, Austin, and Logan converse about advice, thinking, ideas, being a good listener, Carl Rogers and the Rogerian Method, Socrates, the importance of community, and mutual exploration.

Pat wonders about the effects of great music, Logan relates to the idea that talking helps aid good thinking, and Austin observes how seeing the humanity in each other can compliment our weaknesses.