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Baptist historian Dr. Tom Nettles joins Courier Conversations to share the story behind his newest book, "Baptist History for Kids" – a beautifully illustrated journey through Baptist heritage designed to help children understand their theological roots.

Drawing from over four decades of experience teaching at institutions like Southwestern Seminary and Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Dr. Nettles brings his scholarly expertise to a format accessible for young readers. The book, featuring stunning artwork by his son Robert Nettles, covers fundamental questions: What does "Baptist" mean? How did Baptists begin? What do Baptists believe and do? Who are some significant Baptists throughout history?

During our conversation, Dr. Nettles shares how his earlier groundbreaking works "Baptists and the Bible" and "By His Grace and For His Glory" helped establish that Baptist commitment to biblical inerrancy and Reformed soteriology weren't recent innovations but reflected the denomination's historic foundations. This new book extends that mission to the next generation.

What sets this resource apart is its unflinching portrayal of the cost many early Baptists paid for their convictions. Through stories of figures like Obadiah Holmes, who was publicly whipped for his Baptist beliefs, children learn that theological distinctives like believers' baptism by immersion weren't held cheaply but represented deeply-held biblical convictions worth suffering for.

The book highlights familiar Baptist giants like Spurgeon and Bunyan alongside lesser-known figures such as George Lyle, a freed slave who became an effective missionary, and John Jasper, whose preaching gifts were so extraordinary that his master freed him to preach more widely. Dr. Nettles also discusses South Carolina's central role in Baptist history, from establishing the first Baptist association in the South to providing key leadership in forming the Southern Baptist Convention.

Whether you're a parent wanting to nurture your child's denominational identity or someone curious about Baptist roots, this conversation illuminates why understanding our theological heritage matters in an increasingly anti-denominational age. As Dr. Nettles reminds us, Baptist history represents not just cultural tradition but theological conviction worth preserving and passing down.

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What does it mean to be Baptist in today's polarized religious landscape? Can strong theological convictions coexist with genuine kindness toward those who disagree? Nate Akin believes they not only can but must go together.

In this thought-provoking conversation, Nate unpacks the framework of his book "Convictional, Confessional, Cheerful Baptists," revealing how our theological commitments should shape both what we believe and how we engage with others. As executive director of the Pillar Network and founder of Baptist 21, Nate brings unique insights into denominational cooperation and Baptist identity.

The discussion explores how the very doctrines of grace many Baptists cherish should make them the most gracious people in theological discussions. "We should mean what we say (convictional), say what we mean (confessional), and say what we mean without being mean (cheerful)," Nate explains, cutting to the heart of his message.

Particularly compelling is Nate's candid admission that his book partly stems from battling his own tendencies toward theological arrogance. If salvation truly comes by unmerited grace, shouldn't that produce humility rather than haughtiness in our doctrinal positions?

Beyond personal application, the conversation addresses why denominational distinctives matter in an age that often dismisses them as irrelevant. Nate makes a compelling case that understanding Baptist identity isn't just about tradition but about how we understand the church's nature and mission in the world.

Whether you're a lifelong Baptist wondering about your denominational roots or someone curious about how theological conviction and Christian charity can work together, this episode offers refreshing insights for navigating faith in a divided world.

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What makes someone truly Baptist? Is it simply family tradition, or are there deeper theological convictions at play? In this thought-provoking episode, Jeff Robinson and Travis Kearns dive into the heart of Baptist identity, challenging the common notion that most people identify as Baptist merely because "that's how I was raised."

The conversation explores the foundational Baptist distinctive of believers' baptism by immersion and why this practice matters theologically. Robinson and Kearns skillfully dismantle arguments for infant baptism, examining how Baptist understanding of baptism connects to regenerate church membership and a biblical view of covenant signs. Their biblical analysis of Romans 2:25-29 reveals how physical circumcision corresponds to spiritual heart change rather than physical baptism, contradicting common Reformed arguments.

Beyond baptism, the hosts trace Baptist origins to English Puritan separatism in the 17th century, positioning Baptist emergence as a continuation of the Reformation into matters of ecclesiology. They highlight South Carolina's significant historical importance in Baptist life and discuss how Baptist identity encompasses four key principles: orthodoxy, evangelicalism, integrated ecclesiology, and confessionalism.

The discussion takes on added relevance in light of recent high-profile departures from Baptist life to Anglican or Catholic traditions, with the hosts cautioning against reading Scripture through the lens of church history rather than the other way around. Their passionate defense of Baptist distinctives demonstrates why these theological positions remain compelling in an age that often dismisses denominational differences.

Tune in to our upcoming series on denominations, where we'll explore why denominational identity matters in today's anti-authority culture and explain the unique structure of the Southern Baptist Convention. Subscribe, leave a review, and join the conversation about what it means to embrace Baptist identity with biblical conviction rather than mere tradition.

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What happens when religious faith directly impacts political governance? In our latest deep dive, we examine the surprising rise of Zoran Mamdani, the 33-year-old Democrat who openly identifies as both socialist and communist while now standing as the nominee for mayor of America's financial capital.

Our co-host Travis Kearns brings his extensive expertise in world religions to unpack the profound implications of Mamdani's Twelver Shiite Muslim background—the same branch that governs Iran. We explore how this specific Islamic worldview might shape governance approaches in New York City, from economic policies to social structures. Quoting directly from Karl Marx's communist principles and advocating for government-controlled businesses, Mamdani represents a fascinating case study in how personal faith influences public policy.

The conversation moves beyond simple political analysis to examine what Christians living under different governmental systems should consider. Drawing from Romans 13 and the writings of Francis Schaeffer, we discuss the biblical framework for engaging with authorities while maintaining spiritual integrity. Whether you're interested in politics, religious studies, or the intersection of worldviews, this episode offers thoughtful insights into one of America's most significant mayoral races and its potential ripple effects across the nation. Join us for this timely exploration of faith, governance, and how the two inevitably shape each other in profound ways.

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The recent passing of John MacArthur, one of evangelical Christianity's most influential voices, has left a profound void in pastoral leadership. Over 50 years of faithful ministry at Grace Community Church in Southern California, MacArthur revolutionized expository preaching for an entire generation of pastors. In this heartfelt conversation, Jeff Robinson and Travis Kearns reflect on MacArthur's extraordinary legacy and the broader concept of ministry heroes.

Jeff shares how MacArthur shaped his preaching from age 17 through the Grace to You tape ministry, calling him "the most important expositor among evangelicals the last 50 years." Both hosts recount personal encounters with MacArthur, emphasizing his surprising graciousness and warmth despite his reputation for boldness in the pulpit. This juxtaposition of theological conviction with personal kindness exemplifies what many consider the ideal pastoral temperament.

The discussion deepens as they explore whether Christians should have ministry heroes at all. Drawing from biblical examples like Paul and Timothy, they conclude that having heroes is appropriate when kept in proper perspective – looking to them as they follow Christ. The hosts vulnerably share their own ministry heroes, from internationally known figures like RC Sproul and Adrian Rogers to lesser-known but equally impactful mentors who shaped their pastoral approach.

MacArthur's direct communication style, sometimes misinterpreted as harshness, is contextualized within Western cultural norms where directness is valued over small talk. Perhaps most compelling is their recounting of MacArthur's ability to disagree theologically without becoming personally disagreeable – a rare skill in today's polarized discourse. Through books like "Ashamed of the Gospel" and "The Gospel According to Jesus," his voice will continue influencing evangelical Christianity for generations to come.

Whether you've followed MacArthur's ministry for decades or are just discovering his impact, this conversation offers valuable perspective on carrying forward a legacy of biblical faithfulness. Subscribe to the Baptist Courier and follow us on social media to join more discussions about the people and ideas shaping evangelical Christianity today.

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As Independence Day approaches, Christians face the perennial question: How should we navigate the relationship between our faith and our national identity? In this thought-provoking conversation, we explore the biblical foundations for a Christian's responsibility toward the state, beginning with the nuanced understanding of Romans 13.

While Paul instructs believers to submit to governing authorities, this submission has clear boundaries. When government demands contradict scripture or conscience, Christians must respectfully dissent. From abortion laws to restrictions on religious gatherings during COVID-19, believers constantly navigate this delicate balance.

The Baptist tradition offers unique insights here, representing what some call the "true Reformers" who pushed beyond Luther and Calvin in separating church and state. This historical perspective reveals two distinct spheres: the church wielding "the sword of the spirit" through gospel proclamation, while the state rightfully wields "the sword of steel" for maintaining justice. Unfortunately, many American Christians have increasingly blurred these distinctions.

We tackle controversial questions head-on: Should churches host patriotic services? Does 2 Chronicles 7:14 apply to modern America? What's the relationship between biblical Israel and the modern nation-state? Through careful biblical examination, we distinguish between appropriate gratitude for our nation and the dangerous conflation of American identity with Christian faith.

Whether you're wrestling with Christian nationalism, wondering about patriotic elements in worship, or seeking to honor both God and country faithfully, this conversation offers biblical guidance for celebrating Independence Day as citizens of heaven living in America.

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The written word has shaped Christian formation since the church began, and in this revealing conversation, Jeff Robinson and Travis Kearns explore how reading remains essential for spiritual growth today.

"Of making many books there is no end," wrote Solomon in Ecclesiastes – not as a criticism of reading itself, but as a caution against making knowledge an idol above God. Even the Apostle Paul, facing death in a Roman prison, requested his books and parchments for comfort and edification. This biblical foundation sets the stage for a discussion about how intentional reading shapes the Christian mind.

Both hosts share their reading origin stories, recounting how J.R.R. Tolkien's works sparked their lifelong love of books around age 12. For many believers, fiction becomes the gateway to deeper theological exploration – whether through C.S. Lewis's allegories or John Grisham's moral dilemmas embedded in courtroom dramas. The conversation reveals how different genres – from presidential biographies to historical accounts of war – expand our understanding of human nature and leadership.

The heart of the episode centers on transformative Christian classics. Bunyan's "Pilgrim's Progress," written from prison by a persecuted Baptist preacher, tops both hosts' must-read lists. Other recommendations include J.C. Ryle's "Holiness," J.I. Packer's "Knowing God," and Calvin's "Institutes" – each offering profound insights into Christian theology and practice. These books don't merely inform; they transform readers through deep engagement with eternal truths.

For those who struggle to find time for reading, the hosts offer practical wisdom: commit to just 10-20 pages daily. This simple discipline, maintained consistently, allows anyone to complete substantial works over time. The minutes we often squander on social media scrolling could instead nourish our souls through intentional reading.

Ready to transform your spiritual life through reading? Begin with Scripture, add a Christian classic, and watch how God uses these written words to shape your heart and mind. Take up and read!

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A thought-provoking examination of biblical authority versus cultural accommodation unfolds as we dive into the New Yorker's recent mini-documentary questioning whether the Southern Baptist Convention can survive without women pastors. We analyze how the video juxtaposes compassionate female leadership against supposedly rigid traditionalism while missing the fundamental theological principles at stake.

The heart of this conversation isn't about personalities or even church growth strategies. Rather, we examine how passages like 1 Timothy 2-3 and Titus 1 have historically informed Southern Baptist understanding of pastoral qualifications. Tom Askell's powerful statement from the documentary perfectly captures the conservative position: "It's God's world. He sets the rules. It's Christ's church. We can't make it up as we go."

We challenge the documentary's narrative by examining real growth numbers from churches committed to biblical authority. While mainline denominations embracing female ordination have experienced significant membership losses over decades, many theologically conservative SBC churches are thriving. Grace Baptist Church in Cape Coral, for example, has nearly doubled its attendance in just four years while maintaining traditional positions on pastoral leadership.

Baptist polity gets special attention as we clarify misconceptions about church autonomy and denominational boundaries. The SBC cannot "remove" churches—it can only determine which congregations maintain "friendly cooperation" with the convention's stated beliefs. This distinction matters tremendously in understanding what's actually happening when messengers from churches with female pastors are unseated.

Looking ahead to the upcoming Southern Baptist Convention annual meeting in Dallas-Fort Worth, we invite you to follow our coverage at baptistcourier.com, where we'll provide timely updates and thoughtful analysis of this ongoing conversation within America's largest Protestant denomination.

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The selection of Pope Leo XIV has captured global attention, prompting three Southern Baptist leaders to examine what this means for evangelicals in this thoughtful episode of Courier Conversations.

Jeff Robinson hosts Dr. Travis Kearns and Dr. Walter Johnson for a candid discussion about the theological implications of papal authority from an evangelical perspective. The conversation centers on a fundamental question: Should evangelicals celebrate the selection of a new Pope, or does the very office itself represent a theological problem?

The team dives deep into Matthew 16—the passage where Jesus tells Peter "on this rock I will build my church"—unpacking why evangelicals reject the Catholic interpretation that establishes papal authority. Dr. Kearns offers a compelling linguistic analysis of the Greek text, arguing that when Jesus says "this rock," he's referring to himself as the foundation, not establishing Peter as the first Pope. This distinction forms the cornerstone of evangelical objections to papal claims.

Historical challenges to papal succession receive equal attention, with the panel highlighting how the concept of papal supremacy developed gradually over centuries rather than existing from the beginning. They discuss problematic periods when multiple competing popes simultaneously claimed authority, raising questions about the Catholic notion of unbroken apostolic succession from Peter to the present day.

While maintaining clear theological boundaries, the conversation acknowledges the practical influence of the papacy on moral and political fronts. The panel reflects on Pope John Paul II's positive role in opposing communism alongside Western leaders and considers how Pope Leo XIV might influence contemporary moral issues where evangelicals and Catholics find common ground.

The discussion concludes with a powerful affirmation that Christ alone stands as the true head of His church—no earthly representative or vicar needed. Tune in to this thought-provoking episode for a balanced exploration of how evangelicals can thoughtfully engage with Catholic traditions while remaining grounded in biblical truth.

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Tired of hearing that theology is only for scholars or that doctrine divides people? This illuminating conversation with Dr. Walter Johnson, retired dean of Christian Studies at North Greenville University, makes a compelling case for why theological understanding matters deeply for every believer.

Dr. Johnson brilliantly distinguishes between merely knowing about God and truly knowing Him, explaining that while "you can know a lot about God without knowing him, I don't think you can know him very well without knowing a lot about him." This insight forms the foundation for a discussion about how theological understanding transforms our relationship with God and shapes faithful Christian living.

The hosts tackle practical challenges of teaching theology in local churches, acknowledging that many believers find the subject intimidating. Rather than announcing a "systematic theology" series that might draw only the pastor's spouse, they suggest creative approaches: teaching through a church's doctrinal statement, comparing Christianity with other religions, or working through theologically-rich books of the Bible. The goal isn't academic knowledge but spiritual transformation.

Perhaps most compelling is the protective function of sound doctrine. Just as Secret Service agents study genuine currency so thoroughly they immediately recognize counterfeits, Christians grounded in biblical truth can readily identify false teaching. As Hosea warned, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge"—a sobering reminder of what's at stake when believers neglect theological understanding.

The conversation concludes with each participant sharing books that sparked their theological journeys—from Packer's "Knowing God" to Calvin's "Institutes"—demonstrating how theological reading can transform not just understanding but devotion to God. These personal testimonies reinforce that theology isn't merely academic but deeply practical and spiritually enriching.

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