In this episode, Isabel and her guest, Lisa Rimmert, discuss the role of humor in grief. Lisa Rimmert, the author of Stay: My Forever Friendship with an Aging Dog, shares her journey writing the book, her initial shock after losing her beloved Dakota, and how humor is a constant, even on the worst days of her life. During their chat, Isabel and Lisa discuss how and when to allow grief to enter the building after a monumental loss such as the loss of a beloved pet.

With a game about animal puns, lots of jokes about her stand-up routine, and many things in common, Isabel and Lisa speak candidly about their love of old dogs, how they try to support others during grief, and more. They even discuss macabre humor and why it's not as bad as we may think. Enjoy the show!

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