Producer Dawn Dickinson joins us to preview some articles from The Guardian This Week. She tells us how scientists say we must think hard about how we farm animals that are known hosts of human coronaviruses. Dawn also chats about a second article. A recent report warns of a ‘yawning gap’ between government rhetoric on the environment and the years of underfunding the government’s conservation watchdog ‘Natural England.’ From the November 12, 2020 episode.