Covid-19 is real and it is deadly and despite all that many people around the world have had enough. A conversation with Talya Miron-Shatz on why people around the world are willing to risk contracting a virus that could kill them or allow themselves to pass it on to someone they love rather than follow mandates put in place to stop the plague.

Here's how to connect with Dr. Talya Mirin-Shatz
https://talyamironshatz.com/

Music for "Upside of 40 with Sean Mooney" is provided by Immune System. To hear more from Immune System, head to http://immunesystem.bandcamp.com