The news is buzzing with all sorts of speculation on the Delta Variant, and social media is abuzz with both those pushing others to get the vaccine and those trumpeting vaccine horror stories. Who to believe? In this podcast, I summarize the two things I read and heard lately that I found most useful. The first is a NYT podcast by Ezra Klein, interviewing NYU medical school epidemiologist Dr. Celine Gounder (listen here:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/06/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-celine-gounder.html) and the other is a CNN article by Peter Bregman and Howard Jacobson (read here:https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/opinions/how-to-move-people-from-hesitant-to-vaccinated-bregman-jacobson/index.html)