We’re starting Unpolished by going back to the year that changed everything for both of us.
2020 was messy, heartbreaking, confronting, and defining; a year of identity questions, deep grief, unexpected crisis, and moments that reshaped the course of our lives.

In this first episode, we open up about the inner turmoil, the losses, and the near-unbelievable experiences that pushed us closer to Jesus and to each other. And because we cope through humour, you’ll find both laughter and tears woven through the storytelling.

It’s raw. It’s tender. It’s honest.
Welcome to where the story begins, our unpolished beginning.

This conversation also launches Episode 1 of our second podcast, Small Churches, Big God, where we explore the stories behind small-church ministry.