This chat examines the experience of fire in both an inner and an outer sense. It was recorded several weeks before the catastrophic fires which have devastated Oregon over the past 10 days, and it includes references to significant astrological transits that were first hinted at by our Moonwobble update on August 18, specifically, Mars in Aries squaring Saturn in Capricorn. Along the way we pay a nostalgic visit to the cinematic equivalent of a wooly mammoth: Quest for Fire (1981).