When Danielle Dobson came onto the show, it was quite obvious that she is someone who sees the world through a slightly different lens.

Founder & creator of Code Conversations, and author of the famed 'Breaking The Gender Code', Danielle is like Neo from The Matrix in the way that she views life as a series of codes that require decyphering.

We had a tremendous chat about how leaders need to understand each individual's code, as well as how Danielle sees the code of society changing as we navigate through this rapidly changing world.

Top human, measured in her vernacular, and well-worth a listen if you can't quite seem to make sense of someone or something in your life.

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