Join Kathy for an inspirational conversation with Craig Watts, former Perdue chicken farmer and "Whistleblower of the Year" who showed the world what's wrong with modern farming. He and Kathy discuss:

* How modern farmers are “serfs with mortgages,” trapped by debt and with no control over any aspect of their operation

* Chicken farming as one of the leading causes of suffering on the planet

* The “why” behind Craig’s decision to open his doors to filming, even though he knew Perdue would come after him

* Craig’s current work with two organizations whose aims are a “total reboot” of the farming industry

* The promise of a program called Transfarmation, and how Craig hopes to be a model to others seeking to leave animal farming

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* Facebook: Kathy Stevens (http://facebook.com/kathy.stevens.CAS), Catskill Animal Sanctuary (https://www.facebook.com/catskillanimalsanctuary)

* Twitter: @CASanctuary (https://twitter.com/CASanctuary/)

* Books: Where the Blind Horse Sings (https://casanctuary.org/shop/book-where-the-blind-horse-sings/)

* Website: CASanctuary.org (https://casanctuary.org/)

* Instagram: @catskill_animal_sanctuary (https://instagram.com/catskill_animal_sanctuary/)

* YouTube: Catskill Animal Sanctuary (https://www.youtube.com/user/CASanctuary)