Devin Dabney is a man of many, many hats. He brought all those hats to the podcast to chat about creativity, the intersection of music and climbing, how route setting isn't all about giving people what they want, and sharing authentic feelings through many forms of writing. This is a jam-packed episode about leveling up your creativity.

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