This week Anu and Veera have a conversation about the joys and dilemmas of using your hands to create something tangible. How does it feel different to make something physical versus something digital? Is there meaning that only a tangible artefact can hold?

We talk about how using our hands allows us to discover new things, and to think differently. We also discuss how physical and digital experiences relate to how we are present. Finally, we reflect on the struggles of being creative - and the pressures of creating something permanent that can’t be edited or deleted by the click of a button.