Today's guest, Susan de Weger, is an internationally renowned change agent in music education and is on a mission to revitalize music training to better prepare music students for careers in the 21st century.

Currently the Associate Lecturer in Music Entrepreneurship at the Melbourne Conservatorium of Music, she helps students identify their strengths, define personal success, and prepare for their next step.

In this conversation, we talk about

• Why student creativity isn't always valued by schools and teachers (but should be)
• How and why to test your assumptions about what success means to you
• Why it's important to hire faculty from diverse backgrounds
• What she learned after failing her final degree recital
• And how creative thinking can map across all kinds of disciplines