Today's episode a lean in moment with JP Troglio and Jack Pies, an incredible Creative Director, Producer, and Strategist for all things creative and communication both inside and outside of the church. These two have a powerful conversation about the necessity of creativity in the church, what is needed and what is not needed. They talk about the reach of the generations coming up and how to utilize creativity to meet them where they are at. This conversation is important regardless of where your church community might be or how much you think is possible in your context. We hope and pray that this conversation inspires you, encourages you to lean into the Lord for His plan for creativity, and strengthens you to do what you need to do and not do what is not necessary.

Jack Pies is a Creative Director, Producer, and Strategist based in Chicago, IL. Jack exist to assist organizations & churches with creative collateral that reaches Gen Z. Jack is fueled by purpose to drive social impact. Throughout his career, he has helped elevate awareness for equitable causes throughout the country through art direction, design and content production.