join us in our conversation on what it means to be an artist (or a "recovering" one) in the buzzing metropolis that is london in 2023, the heartbreak, and relief, of realising you might not ever "make it" in the art world, what being on benefits (or welfare, to our US listeners) means to your art making process, and what household names were on them at some point in their careers! this is artises and we are glad to be back :)