Educational deep thinker Jonathan Martin and host Peter Gow discuss Jonathan's new book, REINVENTING CREDITING FOR COMPETENCY-BASED EDUCATION: THE MASTERY TRANSCRIPT CONSORTIUM MODEL AND BEYOND (Routledge, 2019). Discussion ranges far beyond the Mastery Transcript to the lessons to be learned from other current and planned competency-based crediting schemes and what schools need to think about in order to "get it right."