Police Minister Bheki Cele says the response he got from Provincial Commissioners as to what went wrong in the first three months of 2022 is unsatisfactory. This after contact crimes like murder, attempted murder and sexual offences spiked unabated. Cele was releasing the quarterly crime statistics in Pretoria on Friday. To find out exactly where things seem to go wrong when it comes to fighting crime in our country, 

Guest: Dr Simon Howell - Research associate at UCT's Centre of Criminology, Dr Simon Howell

Guest: Richard Mamabolo – Spokesperson for Police union, POPCRU