"Crisis and Change: Conversations With Leaders" is produced in partnership by The Pew Charitable Trusts and Stanford Social Innovation Review. In this final episode of this special series, Dr. Rajiv J. Shah, president of the Rockefeller Foundation, and Mark Suzman, CEO of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, share how they're redefining the role of philanthropy in addressing public health crises and preparing for future pandemics.

A full transcript is available here.