Ginger chats with her talented friend, actress Jen Winslow, to better understand the trans experience and debunk misguided thinking surrounding the trans experience and trans community! The episode ends Ginger's Poem "Wake Them Up Slowly" which gives hints on how to gently wake people up.  Jen is also the star of the wonderful short film "Marie," which is a great short piece of cinema and a tender story that can help you better understand important moments in the lives of our trans friends!