Our good friend John Amato, the founder of Crooks & Liars, joins us to talk about the latest really bad polls for Trump's reelection effort (including an awful Fox News poll -- awful for Trump, that is), the Kyle Kashuv Harvard controversy, and ThinkProgress' money trouble and what it means for online media and the future of Facebook's monopoly control over so much of the media world.

PS John also talks to us about the time he toured with Duran Duran!

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