Shely is joined in this episode by New York Times bestselling author, Michael Grunwald, whose new book "We Are Eating the Earth" publishes on July 1, 2025. Michael shares the idea behind his book and chats with Shely about finding a pragmatic balance between climate and real-world human behavior as it relates to agriculture and food.

"We Are Eating the Earth" is available for pre-order now: 
https://www.amazon.com/We-Are-Eating-Earth-Climate/dp/1982160071