Can conflict strengthen a movement instead of destroying it?

In this episode of CrossTalk at the Kroc, Major Jonathan Raymer welcomes Colonel Eddie Hobgood for a fascinating look at one of the most overlooked chapters in Salvation Army history—the split that led to the formation of the American Salvation Army, often known as Moore's Army. What began as disagreements over leadership, legal authority, property ownership, and governance eventually became one of the defining moments that shaped the Salvation Army we know today.

Together, Jonathan and Colonel Hobgood trace the origins of the conflict, exploring the ministry of Thomas Moore, the challenges of operating an international movement within the unique legal and cultural landscape of the United States, and the tensions between patriotism and global mission. They also uncover the surprising origins of the Salvation Army's Eagle Crest, the enduring tradition of displaying the American and Salvation Army flags together, and the crucial role Evangeline Booth played in preserving unity during a turbulent season.

More than a history lesson, this conversation reveals timeless principles for today's Church. It reminds us that effective ministry requires both conviction and accountability, that the gospel must be communicated within the culture it seeks to reach, and that our highest allegiance is always to the Kingdom of God. Even in moments of disagreement and uncertainty, God remains faithful, using difficult seasons to refine His people and strengthen His mission.

Whether you're passionate about Salvation Army history, Christian leadership, or the lessons the past can teach the present, this episode offers valuable insights into how God can bring unity, growth, and renewed purpose out of conflict.

Because history doesn't just tell us where we've been—it teaches us how to faithfully move forward.

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Sermon preached on August 2, 2026 at The Salvation Army Augusta Kroc by Lt. Jamie Dupree

God is near the brokenhearted

Sermon preached on July 26, 2026 at The Salvation Army Augusta Kroc Center by Joseph Bottoms.

What happens when an organization built on strong leadership must confront one of the greatest crises in its history?

In this episode of CrossTalk at the Kroc, Major Jonathan Raymer is joined by Colonel Eddie Hobgood to examine one of the most pivotal moments in Salvation Army history—the events of 1929. Together, they unpack the unprecedented High Council that led to the removal of General Bramwell Booth, the founder's son, and the constitutional changes that forever reshaped the governance of The Salvation Army.

Far more than a historical retelling, this conversation explores the tension between honoring a cherished legacy and making difficult decisions for the future of the mission. Jonathan and Colonel Hobgood discuss William Booth's original vision for leadership, the challenges of succession, the influence of Evangeline Booth, and the emotional weight carried by leaders who were forced to make one of the hardest decisions in the Army's history.

The episode also highlights the lasting impact of the 1929 High Council: ending lifetime appointments, replacing hereditary succession with elected leadership, creating greater accountability, and ensuring that The Salvation Army would remain a global movement capable of adapting while staying faithful to its mission.

Whether you're a Salvationist, a student of church history, or simply interested in how God works through imperfect people and difficult seasons, this episode offers a compelling reminder that God's mission is greater than any one leader. History isn't merely about looking back—it's about learning how God's faithfulness continues to guide His people forward.

Because sometimes the most difficult chapters in our history become the foundation for our strongest future.

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Just hours before His arrest, Jesus prayed—not only for the disciples gathered around Him, but for every person who would one day believe through their witness. That means He prayed for us.

In this episode of CrossTalk at the Kroc, Major Jonathan Raymer is joined by Cadet Shakoor Rasheed for a powerful discussion of John 17:20–26, the closing portion of Jesus' High Priestly Prayer. Together, they unpack Christ's heartfelt desire for His Church to be united, rooted in God's love, and a faithful witness to the world.

The conversation explores why Christian unity is more than simply agreeing on every issue—it's about reflecting the relationship between the Father and the Son. Jonathan and Shakoor discuss how the Holy Spirit empowers believers to love one another, why humility is essential to authentic community, and how a divided Church weakens its witness while a unified Church points people to Jesus.

They also reflect on the incredible truth that Jesus desires eternal fellowship with His followers, revealing a Savior who continually pursues His people with unwavering love. As the prayer concludes, listeners are reminded that Christ's ultimate desire isn't merely for us to know about Him, but to know Him personally and to reflect His character in every area of life.

This episode is a timely challenge for every believer to pursue unity, embrace the transforming work of the Holy Spirit, and live as a reflection of Christ's love in a world desperately searching for hope.

Because when the Church lives in unity and love, the world catches a glimpse of Jesus.

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In this episode of CrossTalk, Jonathan sits down with Chris Benjamin, Director of Production and Operations for Soundcast, to explore how The Salvation Army is using podcasts, radio, storytelling, and digital media to share the Gospel around the world.

From the history of Words of Life dating back to 1955, to modern podcasting and social media outreach, this conversation dives into the heart behind Soundcast’s mission: meeting people where they are and pointing them to Jesus.

Together, they discuss the power of testimony, why storytelling matters, the importance of digital ministry in today’s world, and how the Salvation Army continues to innovate for the sake of the Gospel. Whether through one-minute devotionals, longform conversations, or immersive biblical storytelling, Soundcast is helping people encounter hope, truth, and the love of Christ in everyday spaces.

This is a conversation about creativity, calling, and using every available tool to build the Kingdom of God.

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Sermon preached on July 19, 2026 at The Salvation Army Augusta Kroc Center by Cadet Shakoor Rasheed

In this episode of CrossTalk, Jonathan Raymer sits down withAaron Sturdivant to explore the mission and ministry of Salvation Army Service Centers. More than simply meeting physical needs, Service Centers are places where the love of Christ becomes tangible through food assistance, utility andrent support, clothing programs, community outreach, and compassionate relationships.

Aaron shares powerful stories from the front lines ofministry in Canton, Georgia, highlighting how service opportunities become moments of dignity, hope, and spiritual encouragement for individuals and families facing crisis. Together, they discuss the importance of building aChrist-centered culture within The Salvation Army, the value of authentic community, and why ministry is never just transactional—it’s relational.

This conversation is a reminder that the gospel does notstop at words. It moves into neighborhoods, enters difficult moments, and meets people where they are. When the body of Christ goes to work, lives are changed.

Whether you are familiar with The Salvation Army or simplypassionate about faith in action, this episode offers an encouraging look at how practical service and the message of Jesus go hand in hand.

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Sermon preached on July 12, 2026 at The Salvation Army Augusta Kroc Center by Major Jonathan Raymer