At Index, in February 2024, at the opening of Josefin Arnell’s exhibition CRYBABY, the artist was in conversation with the Index team, in a discussion about film and art practices, processes, and methodologies, how to work with reality and fiction. The exhibition at Index presents 8 films by Josefin Arnell to be watched at short distance.  
In this conversation, now presented here as a podcast, Josefin Arnell talks about her own experiences, communities, and social dynamics related to wanting to fit in, bullying, the ways which things unfold around the films and how to deal with emotions and events on both sides of the camera.