In today’s episode, we sit down with J. Christopher Giancarlo (“Crypto Dad”) former Chairman of the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) to unpack why crypto isn’t just an “asset class,” but a new architecture for money and markets. Giancarlo takes us inside the 2008 crisis, explaining how opacity and missing visibility distorted decision-making and why digital networks + shared ledgers could transform how value is tracked, moved, and verified.

We also dive into the real story behind the launch of regulated Bitcoin futures, the political pressure that came with it, and what today’s battles around stablecoins, yield, and AML/KYC mean for the next phase of adoption.

If you care about where finance is heading, this conversation is essential.