“A lot of users don’t need a bank. What they need is a wallet.”

In this episode of Endgame, Amanda Cassatt sits down with Richard Teng, CEO of Binance, for a conversation about what crypto actually became and whether that’s the right thing. Richard spent three decades in traditional finance, including the Central Bank of Singapore, before joining Binance in 2021. He doesn’t argue like a convert. He argues like someone who watched the old system fail for thirty years and decided the new one had to work differently.

They start at the founding question: is crypto self-sovereign freedom tech or licensed infrastructure run by a handful of platforms? Richard’s answer is that the frame is wrong. Centralized exchanges aren’t a betrayal of the movement. They’re the interface the movement needs to reach the 1.4 billion people the financial system never bothered to serve. From there they move through Binance’s regulatory strategy in markets like Dubai, why the Genius Act sent stablecoin volume past Visa in under a year, and why regulatory clarity is the unlock for institutional capital, not just compliance overhead.

Amanda pushes on financialization risk, tokenization of ownership, and whether crypto has run out of native narrative. Richard’s case for the SAFU fund, recovering assets sent to wrong chains, and what a financial super app means in frontier markets is the clearest argument for why centralization isn’t just commercially convenient but structurally necessary for the thing to work at all.

Timestamps:

00:00 - Is crypto still freedom tech or licensed infra?

00:55 - 1.4 billion unbanked: why the system fails them

03:00 - Why 65% quit after their first onchain transaction

05:04 - What a bank actually does  and what replaces it

07:30 - Binance as a financial super app for the excluded

09:30 - Binance does more for inclusion than governments

11:02 - China, protectionism and why countries need Binance

13:52 - The Dubai story: building a crypto hub from scratch

17:09 - Regulation as a moat vs regulation as a product

19:32 - The Genius Act and the stablecoin explosion

21:37 - Is compliance becoming incumbent protection?

24:39 - Binance's approach to the US market

26:29 - AI + Blockchain will rebuild every industry

28:42 - Will AI suck all trading value to the biggest firm?

33:11 - Binance AI Pro: what it actually does

36:46 - Crypto out of ideas? RWAs and the next narrative

39:14 - Why 24/7 trading changes everything

41:38 - Invisible crypto and the abstraction risk

45:58 - Hyperliquid vs Binance: who wins?

48:47 - Where does Binance's growth actually come from?

50:00 - The future: wallets replace banks

52:16 - The SAFU fund: $1B to protect users

54:23 - Crypto's real legacy: financial education

56:00 - Do banks really create money from a spreadsheet?

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