The Australian Surrogacy Podcast Episode 84: Crystal. Crystal was a surrogate for friends Martin and Paul, whom she met through the online surrogacy community. You might like to listen to Martin and Paul's episode 73 as well, as this team has some great advice from all their perspectives.

Crystal and I recorded this interview during the COVID pandemic, when she was about six months' post birth. The pandemic meant that the Parentage Order was made in the Judge's chambers, and that Crystal couldn't travel to see Martin, Paul and Zac for the planned hearing and celebration. Crystal reflects on the hormonal roller-coaster post-birth and the fourth trimester, and her experiences of maintaining the relationship and connections when they can't be in each other's company.