In this episode of Crisis Talks, Katy and Katie revisit the gigs that shaped their teens, the bands that still give them goosebumps, and the festivals that nearly finished them off. Expect stories of dodgy tents, chaotic weekends, and why music still matters more than ever in midlife — even if recovery now takes three business days.

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