The Foodscaper Podcast

Cultivating Change: The Intersection of Business and Spirit with Erik Ohlsen


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In this episode of The Foodscaper Podcast, host Matt Lebon sits down with Erik Ohlsen, the founder of Permaculture Artisans, to explore his journey from activism to launching his business in 2005. Eric shares the early challenges he faced, such as operating without a contractor's license, and how he grew the company to a 23-member team that provides a full range of ecological landscaping services, from design to maintenance.


The conversation covers key topics like building strong client relationships, navigating project mobilization costs, and incorporating spiritual reciprocity with the land—drawing on influences from Indigenous and Nordic traditions. Erik also discusses the upkeep of demonstration gardens, strategies for managing business growth, and the role of spiritual values in today’s world.


Additional insights include practical advice on estimating project costs, handling change orders, and the transformative impact of regenerative practices on urban planning and housing. Erik's book, The Regenerative Landscaper, serves as a foundation for the discussion, offering practical tips on ecological design and sustainable practices. Tune in to discover Erik’s vision for a regenerative future.


This episode, sponsored by Epic Gardening, is packed with specific and valuable advice for anyone looking to turn their love of gardening and earth stewardship into a successful career. 



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    Episode Breakdown:

    • 0:00 Welcome to the Foodscaper Podcast

    • 1:24  Introduction to Eric Olson

    •  3:32 Origins of Permaculture Artisans

    • 6:20 Early Challenges and Growth

    • 7:23 Current Projects and Operations

    • 16:00 Spiritual Connection to the Land

    • 29:45 Insights from ‘The Regenerative Landscaper’

    • 31:00 Managing Growth and Hiring Decisions

    • 36:45 Navigating Change Orders in Projects

    • 44:45 Insights from 'The Regenerative Landscaper' part II

    • 55:11  Future of Regenerative Development

    • 58:20  Closing Thoughts and Gratitude



    • Permaculture Artisans - Design, Build, & Maintenance


      Home | Erik Ohlsen Regenerative Design and Mentorship | Folk Traditions


      The Regenerative Landscaper: Design and Build Landscapes That Repair the Environment - Synergetic Press


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