John Clintsman is the Director of Grounds for Ensworth School in Tennessee and one of our 2022 Pioneers in the Field class members. Dr. Michael Goatley is a professor and turfgrass extension specialist with Virginia Tech and has served as one of John's mentors from early on his career. In this chat, the two talk about how they've learned from one another over the years and how important and great it is to have mentors turned friends in this industry.