In this wide-ranging conversation about EdTech and digital learning, Lee Schneider speaks with Nick Garvin, founder of Stackup, and Noah Geisel, Stackup's director of education, about the digital classroom, getting credit for online learning, and the similarities between learning and play. Stackup is a smart Chrome browser extension that teachers are using to track student reading online. It is also used by lifelong learners and job seekers to document their online reading.

The conversation covers complexities of marketing to educators, what teachers really want in an "app" and how students are using Stackup and other apps that are part of the digital classroom. The podcast is produced by Red Cup. Lee Schneider is the communications director.