Ostrolenk speaks with Jim Turner (Chairman of Citizens for Health and President of Voice for Hope) and Roger Jahnke (Doctor of Oriental Medicine and Director of Health Action) on the state of health care. Ostrolenk notes that today's policy conversations surround supporting or repealing Obamacare. Those conversations are about who should pay for medicine in America and who controls those decisions. As important as that conversation might be, another conversation needs to take place which is what would health promoting systems actually look like in America. Commenting on this, Jahnke describes how health care systems are increasingly incorporating integrated medical systems, and individuals are increasingly engaged in their own personal wellness. Jahnke also describes the Healer Within concept, through which each person is born with a finite amount of rehabilitating power, which can either be maximized or overused. Following these ideas, the conversation evolves to a discussion on the duality of our current system: a trend towards centralized control of health care alongside a decentralized trend of people utilizing technology and information to take a proactive role in their own wellness. Jahnke concludes by asking if this needs to be a debate: do we have to take a side, or is the answer in the integration of this apparent duality within the context of spontaneous order?

To learn more about Roger Janke's work visit The Institute of Integral Quigong and Tai Chi (Iiqtc.org) and The Healer Within Foundation (healerwithinfoundation.org).