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Culture, Frameworks and the Age of AI — with Elliot Taylor (Patchstack)


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I worked with Elliot Taylor at Pfizer years ago, building security tooling on Laravel Nova. Now he runs engineering at Patchstack — and the job looks nothing like it did five years ago.

This one's not a pitch. No sponsor, no prediction deck. Just two people who've been in the trenches talking about what's actually changing — in the role, in the tools, and in how teams ship.

What we get into:

  • Why "traditional engineering is over" and what the role is morphing into
  • The 90/10/200% rule — how most dev skills are fading but the rest got massively amplified
  • What happens when the whole company can @Claude in Slack
  • How Patchstack flipped shift-left on its head — because time-to-exploit went from months to minutes
  • The Codex vs Claude analogy that'll stick with you
  • Where Lovable, Supabase, and no-code fit next to Laravel and hand-carved code
  • Why the People Ops team at Patchstack is now shipping their own apps
  • Chapters

    • 00:00 — Intro
    • 01:00 — Culture, frameworks, and the books that actually work
    • 03:00 — Rebuilding our old Pfizer security dashboard, the AI way
    • 06:30 — Builders, not engineers
    • 10:00 — AI as a thought partner
    • 12:30 — The role of engineer, irrevocably changed
    • 14:30 — "@Claude, is this possible?" — flattening the company
    • 18:00 — AI slop, bug bounties, and the time-to-exploit problem
    • 23:30 — How Patchstack mitigates at the application layer
    • 27:30 — DORA, boring deployments, and tech debt as a loan
    • 32:30 — Codex vs Claude: two very different personalities
    • 35:00 — No-code, Lovable, and what comes after the engineer
    • Mentioned in this episode

      • Patchstack — https://patchstack.com/
      • Laravel, Laravel Nova, Filament, Laravel Cloud
      • Claude, Claude Code, Cursor, Codex
      • Lovable, Supabase, n8n, Xano, Softr
      • Accelerate by Nicole Forsgren, Jez Humble, Gene Kim
      • The DevOps Handbook by Gene Kim et al.
      • Continuous Delivery by Jez Humble and David Farley
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