On this episode, I’m talking to Elisa Erkelenz, curator, dramaturg and author with a focus on trans traditional contemporary music. We’re talking about curation through the lens of one of her projects, Outernational, the roles jazz and improvising musicians play in contemporary classical music settings, the importance of developing partnerships, the value of collaboration and community, how music can become political, and giving a platform for diverse lived experiences through music.

https://pantopia-music.org/en/album-outernational-songs-of-wounding/