In this Currents episode, BJ Campbell has a wide-ranging talk with Jim about his article, "Social Justice is a Crowdsourced Religion": the history of the wokeism & how it can be seen as a religion, what makes religions efficacious, the falsification problem, woke scientific contradictions, protestant similarities, woke prevalence, its rapid ideological evolution, network-based self-organization, why wokeism should accept the religion title, the nature of mass movements & true believers, memetic tribes, the rapid growth of wokeism, its good initial intentions, and more.