In this episode, Clay and Christian unpack one of the most fascinating and misunderstood ideas in Scripture—the Divine Council. What is it? Who’s in it? And what does it reveal about God’s rule, evil, and our place in the story?

Drawing from Dr. Michael Heiser’s research in The Unseen Realm and Scripture itself, they explore how the Bible consistently shows God working through a heavenly family—spiritual beings who serve His purposes—and how rebellion in that realm still affects ours.

More importantly, they talk about what it means for us today: how Jesus reclaimed authority, why we don’t have to live afraid, and how understanding the unseen world actually deepens our trust in God’s goodness.

If you’ve ever had questions about angels, demons, or what’s really happening in the supernatural story of the Bible—this one’s for you.