Come and join me in this hour and a half convo with my first guest, Cy McLeod. Somebody who has become more than a friend to me over the years.

 

He's known for his ta moko and booming voice on the kapa haka stage, but people don't often get to know who he is away from all those things. This podcast hopefully helps to paint a bigger picture of the man behind the multiple disciplines.

 

Enjoy.