Cyber Leaders

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Cyber Leaders episodes

September 10 Special | Fright or FUD: The 100 Company Cyber Security Letter
Late August was a wild stretch for frontier AI and cyber security, capped by more than 100 companies, led by OpenAI, warning of "a limited window to strengthen cyber defenses." In this special hosts-only episode, Ciaran and James take stock. Ciaran walks through how we got here, James asks who is actually going to do all this defending, and Ciaran calls a 4,000-year-old witness on who should answer for the actions of AI agents. They close on the harder question: is trust between the AI labs and the security community fraying, and can it be repaired?
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27 min
June 19 The Rise and Fall of Conti with Geoff White
In this episode, Ciaran and James are joined for a second time by investigative journalist and author Geoff White to discuss the extraordinary story of the Conti ransomware gang. Ahead of the latest BBC podcast series Cyber Hack, Geoff shares his expertise on Conti’s emergence as one of the original big game ransomware groups, the catastrophic attacks that brought them global attention, and the dramatic and acrimonious collapse that tore the gang apart.
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49 min
June 12 Defending with the Same AI That’s Coming for You with Chris Cochran
In this episode, Ciaran and James speak with Chris Cochran, Field CISO and Vice President of AI Security at SANS Institute, to discuss AI and cyber defense. Chris shares his perspective on the rise of AI-driven attacks, why community matters for security leaders under pressure, and what it will take to keep AI safe.
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31 min
June 05 She Convinced the Pentagon to Let Hackers In. Legally. With Katie Moussouris
In this episode, Ciaran and James sit down with Katie Moussouris, Founder of Luta Security and one of the pioneers of vulnerability research and bug bounties, to discuss how the industry has changed over time. Katie shares her expertise on vulnerability disclosure programmes, researcher protection and equity, and why she still bets on people in an AI-driven world.
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47 min
May 29 Still Getting Cloud Wrong. Here’s what to Fix. With Simon Vernon
In this episode, Ciaran and James sit down with Simon Vernon, Head of Research and Development at SANS Institute, to discuss cloud and AI security. As a practitioner in the field, Simon shares his experience building hands-on training, where cloud security still goes wrong, and how AI is changing attacker behaviour and creating new risks.
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44 min
May 22 The Weakest Link in a Global Life Sciences Company? People. With Dr. Kevin Jones
In this episode, Ciaran and James sit down with Dr. Kevin Jones, Group CISO of Bayer and honorary professor at Cardiff University, to discuss cybersecurity across critical industries.
Kevin shares his expertise on human behaviour in security, the growing impact of AI on both attacks and defences, and the challenges of protecting complex, real-world systems.
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43 min
May 15 Your CISO is Now Your Chief Trust Officer with Jitender Arora
In this episode, Ciaran and James sit down with Jitender Arora, Partner and CISO for Deloitte North and South Europe, to discuss the human side of cyber leadership and how the role is changing. As a veteran of the industry, Jitender shares his perspective on burnout and supporting cyber talent, how the CISO role is shifting towards trust, and how organisations can prepare for AI.
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44 min
May 08 Stories from an Expert Threat Hunter with Taz Wake
In this episode, Ciaran and James are joined by Taz Wake, Digital Forensics & Incident Response expert, to talk about the realities of defending organisations today. Drawing on his background in military intelligence and years on the front line, Taz shares insights on incident response, threat hunting, and the common myths the industry still gets wrong.
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44 min
May 01 How Zalando Deployed GenAI Without Handing Attackers the Keys with Florence Mottay
In this episode, Ciaran and James sit down with Florence Mottay, CISO of Zalando, to discuss the state of cybersecurity in business. Florence shares her expertise on bringing generative AI securely online, how traditional and AI-enabled threats are evolving, and how European organisations are navigating regulation, resilience and risk in a fast-changing landscape.
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41 min
April 24 Weathering the AI Vulnerability Storm with Gadi Evron, Rob Lee and Ed Skoudis
In this episode, Ciaran and James sit down with Gadi Evron, Rob Lee and Ed Skoudis to discuss Claude Mythos and the paper co-authored with SANS, the Cloud Security Alliance, [un]prompted and OWASP in response.
Gadi, Rob and Ed share their expertise on AI-driven vulnerability discovery, how cyber teams should respond, and what this shift means for the future of security work.
Gadi Evron is the founder and CEO of Knostic and CISO in residence for the Cloud Security Alliance. Rob Lee is Chief AI Officer and Chief of Research at SANS. Ed Skoudis is the founder of the SANS Penetration Testing Curriculum and Counter Hack and President at SANS Technology Institute.
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48 min

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The Cyber Leaders podcast focusses on the fast-paced world of cybersecurity, delivering cutting-edge insights and trends with energy, enthusiasm, and professionalism. With high level expertise and…