"The major issue that we typically have is on The Hill. For years, we've seen bills coming out, which specified a direction of left or right or up the middle, and nothing happens. That leads a lot of us sceptics to believe that people on The Hill who are being funded by the largest tech companies don't move because it's not financially viable for their future campaigns. Our cyber life cannot be attached to the whims of politics. "

Rob and Stan are taking a well earned festive break, they'll be back in the new year.
So we've decided to do some Christmas re-gifting and dust down a terrific episode from a couple of years ago.
It features Michael Echols, CEO of MAX Cybersecurity, LLC and author of 'Secure Cyber Life: The Government Is Not Coming To Save You'
As you will hear, Michael is passionate about his subject  and has conclusions that you could find rather disturbing.
In other words, perfect for a podcast episode.
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