This episode of In Serious Conversation with Natiq focuses on cyber security, environmental justice, and the Salt Typhoon hacking campaign believed to be sponsored by China against telecommunications giants like AT&T and Verizon. This shows the relevance of encrypted messaging for protecting your information. Plus, we highlight the importance of public health when we talk about the recent EPA ruling banning the use of TCE and PCE, potent solvents linked to cancer and pollution. Listen now!