In this episode of the podcast, Steve has a conversation with Richard Clarke about how the threat of cyber war has evolved over the past decade, the politics of cybersecurity, and the need for accountable leaders in the face of evolving threats and emerging technology such as ransomware and artificial intelligence. Richard is one of the world's leading experts in security, cyberspace, and terrorism. He served in the Whitehouse for Reagan, both Bushes, and Clinton - appointed by Clinton as the National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counterterrorism.

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