In this episode of Count Time Now, host Fred Ward engages in a compelling discussion with Frank Jackson, the longest-serving mayor in Cleveland's history. The conversation delves into the '3% rule,' the impact of cynical voters, and how to transform skepticism into political action. They explore recent research involving Ohio's ex-felon voters and discuss strategies for creating political spaces that foster genuine learning and collective action. Alongside reflections on systemic challenges and the power of community, Jackson and Ward examine how to harness the disillusionment of cynical voters for lasting change.

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

00:42 The 3% Rule and Voter Impact

01:14 Research on Cynical Voters

02:52 Challenges Faced by Ex-Felons

06:24 The Beast of the System

12:12 Creating a New Community

13:16 Conclusion and Final Thoughts