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Cypherpunk Bitstream 0x05: Security I
We talk about security and the current state of the security system (police, intelligence services, and the military).
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Show Notes
What is security
must be maintained.
the time, no incentive to learn about security.
Systems
with high cost and less functional societies.
environments are what make them.
protecting family and friends, private zones, no drama.
quickly by few “bad actors”.
a high security, high trust environment? Parallel developments also
possible: high security, low trust societies.
Thomas Kuhn (1962): The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
(stateism) and increase state control. Thus, individuals externalize
security, and state is presented as the White Knight.
state actors?
politics.
Institutions
criminal or at least a suspect.
weapons.
preservation.
[original: war is the continuation of politics by other means].
police (control of territorial boundaries VS maintaining territorial
integrity VS maintain security within the borders).
Intelligence services
intelligence services also ad-driven?
actionable.
coming out of intelligence circle, or mission driven services
(Bundesverfassungsschutz, for example).
are about action.
and investigate crimes.
actions are for intelligence work. In Germany, it’s clearly
seperated; in USA, not so much.
is their mandate, not catch criminals.
act available.
but political action. However, it‘s a security issue for the other
side.
International organisations
No police powers, limited investigation powers.
chiefs), Munich Security Forum (conference with high-level security
chiefs).
Story“)
scenes, but in reality it‘s not the dominant part, only few
questions can be answered.
from opponents: intelligence agencies VS intelligence agencies from
other countries; police VS criminals.
(Education Material for people that train police, manuals and
coursework can be brought on Amazon, also check out libraries).
public, depending on country). Caveat: contains successes and legal
processes only.
Investigators, Intelligence People to get a more accurate picture
about their work.
Public private partnerships
servers in a German bunker).
Investigation.
company. (Cyberforensics, not done by police)
Corporate Investigators for hire: Forensic Accountants, etc. (Police
work only for special investigator power, or force powers.)
are bound legally (for example, in bribing), then sanatize the data
and give it to the police.
industry. (But with special privileges: Police, Military,
Intelligence)
two) six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will
find (seven reasons) something in them which will hang him.“, this
quote might be originated by memorialist Françoise Bertraut de
Motteville (1723), and was later paraphrased.
work of probabilities, not a binary process.
policework (someone bringing you from outside a full case, only
verification needed, negative evidence often gets lost).
police.
backchanneling, automated sting operation (example, IP-Echelon).
of leads, investigation.
on information provided by for example NGOs (example, Transparency
International).
Cryptocurrency Adresses (public keys).
AI (finding people software)
Actors (non-illegmitate).
Private Intelligence
criminals.
organizations, Staatsschutz).
companies.
middlemen (in-betweens).
corporate, state, and private decision makers (different sides of
the law).
Aktivitäten nicht-staatlicher Akteure (private intelligence
activities by non-state actors)
services (IMSI-catchers) are often ex police, ex military etc.
14 eyes.
something done?
understand from outside, inside not easy to understand- even for the
players themselves.
it the only case, only in this direction?
But, ACAB is also wrong.
Outlook
possible, organizational technologies, reporting and communication.
markets were not global, slow. Today: Global financial markets mean
indirect profit from activities like war, markets can be complex,
distributed, longer reach.
attribution becomes problematic (witness problem, no review
pointers).
Murder. Betrayal. (Paul LeRoux)
Wrap up
Reading Recommendations
nicht-staatlicher Akteure (private intelligence activities by
non-state actors)
Betrayal. (Paul LeRoux)
Discuss
We’re on bbs.anarplex.net with our own board to discuss!
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By Frank Braun & Jonathan 'smuggler' LoganWe talk about security and the current state of the security system (police, intelligence services, and the military).
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Show Notes
What is security
must be maintained.
the time, no incentive to learn about security.
Systems
with high cost and less functional societies.
environments are what make them.
protecting family and friends, private zones, no drama.
quickly by few “bad actors”.
a high security, high trust environment? Parallel developments also
possible: high security, low trust societies.
Thomas Kuhn (1962): The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
(stateism) and increase state control. Thus, individuals externalize
security, and state is presented as the White Knight.
state actors?
politics.
Institutions
criminal or at least a suspect.
weapons.
preservation.
[original: war is the continuation of politics by other means].
police (control of territorial boundaries VS maintaining territorial
integrity VS maintain security within the borders).
Intelligence services
intelligence services also ad-driven?
actionable.
coming out of intelligence circle, or mission driven services
(Bundesverfassungsschutz, for example).
are about action.
and investigate crimes.
actions are for intelligence work. In Germany, it’s clearly
seperated; in USA, not so much.
is their mandate, not catch criminals.
act available.
but political action. However, it‘s a security issue for the other
side.
International organisations
No police powers, limited investigation powers.
chiefs), Munich Security Forum (conference with high-level security
chiefs).
Story“)
scenes, but in reality it‘s not the dominant part, only few
questions can be answered.
from opponents: intelligence agencies VS intelligence agencies from
other countries; police VS criminals.
(Education Material for people that train police, manuals and
coursework can be brought on Amazon, also check out libraries).
public, depending on country). Caveat: contains successes and legal
processes only.
Investigators, Intelligence People to get a more accurate picture
about their work.
Public private partnerships
servers in a German bunker).
Investigation.
company. (Cyberforensics, not done by police)
Corporate Investigators for hire: Forensic Accountants, etc. (Police
work only for special investigator power, or force powers.)
are bound legally (for example, in bribing), then sanatize the data
and give it to the police.
industry. (But with special privileges: Police, Military,
Intelligence)
two) six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will
find (seven reasons) something in them which will hang him.“, this
quote might be originated by memorialist Françoise Bertraut de
Motteville (1723), and was later paraphrased.
work of probabilities, not a binary process.
policework (someone bringing you from outside a full case, only
verification needed, negative evidence often gets lost).
police.
backchanneling, automated sting operation (example, IP-Echelon).
of leads, investigation.
on information provided by for example NGOs (example, Transparency
International).
Cryptocurrency Adresses (public keys).
AI (finding people software)
Actors (non-illegmitate).
Private Intelligence
criminals.
organizations, Staatsschutz).
companies.
middlemen (in-betweens).
corporate, state, and private decision makers (different sides of
the law).
Aktivitäten nicht-staatlicher Akteure (private intelligence
activities by non-state actors)
services (IMSI-catchers) are often ex police, ex military etc.
14 eyes.
something done?
understand from outside, inside not easy to understand- even for the
players themselves.
it the only case, only in this direction?
But, ACAB is also wrong.
Outlook
possible, organizational technologies, reporting and communication.
markets were not global, slow. Today: Global financial markets mean
indirect profit from activities like war, markets can be complex,
distributed, longer reach.
attribution becomes problematic (witness problem, no review
pointers).
Murder. Betrayal. (Paul LeRoux)
Wrap up
Reading Recommendations
nicht-staatlicher Akteure (private intelligence activities by
non-state actors)
Betrayal. (Paul LeRoux)
Discuss
We’re on bbs.anarplex.net with our own board to discuss!
Hosts
Contact
Snail mail
Bitstream
Scanbox #06965
Ehrenbergstr. 16a
10245 Berlin
Germany
Please send us feedback letters, postcards, and interesting books. You can also send us your dirty fiat by cash in the mail! We take all currencies.
Support
Please support Cypherpunk Bitstream by donating to:
Bitcoin: 38mzCtXHjgq6RusYQsFy2TQiLvLK7vN5JF (also via lightning network)
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Decred: Dsi9j7SdwZrHtCfUmxTNgpVGx2YAboZc7ve
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