DISCLAIMER: This episode was recorded prior to George Floyd's death and nationwide protests. We stand in solidarity with protestors and the Black Lives Matter movement more generally.  Feel free to listen to the podcast if you need a break, or wait until it feels right for you.

Julie and Kalea share their  thoughts about D-2, the downfalls of fame, mental health, the fact that WDYT has existed in some form or another since 2016, and what to do when getting what you want....isn't actually what you want. 

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