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Are your dashboards actually driving decisions? Or are they beautifully built artefacts that nobody uses? In this episode of unDUBBED, Sarah and Fiona sit down with two of the most respected voices in data communication to tackle one of the industry's most uncomfortable questions: do dashboards actually work?
Amanda Makulec is a data visualisation leader with 15 years of experience and a founding board member and former executive director of the Data Visualisation Society. Andy Cotgreave spent 20 years in data and analytics, 15 of them at Tableau, before co-founding How to Speak Data. Together they co-host Chart Chat - so yes, they have opinions.
The conversation digs into the discovery and prototyping work that must happen before anyone opens a tool, the difference between story finding and storytelling, and why reducing friction often beats adding features. They also get into AI's messy, exhilarating, and frankly terrifying impact on data work.
Whether you build dashboards, manage a team that does, or quietly suspect nobody reads your reports - this one's for you. Amanda and Andy are also co-authors of the Big Book of Dashboards and Dashboards That Deliver.
amanda makulec, andy cotgreave, dashboards that deliver, big book of dashboards, why dashboards fail, dashboard design, data communication, data visualisation, story finding vs storytelling, AI and data analytics, future of dashboards, dashboard strategy, user centred design, discovery before development, reducing data friction, data trust, data decision making, how to speak data, chart chat, data visualisation society, datafam, unDUBBED, dub dub data, dashboard best practices, data storytelling
00:00 Introduction to Dashboards and Their Value
08:35 The Failure of Dashboards: Insights and Statistics
19:23 Redefining Dashboards: Integration and User Experience
21:54 Teaching Data Visualization Workshops
24:02 The Future of Dashboards
33:38 Data Communication vs. Data Visualization
44:26 AI and the Role of Data Teams
45:10 The Rapid Evolution of AI Technology
47:04 Balancing Productivity and Ethical Concerns in AI
47:51 The Importance of Human Connection in Data Analysis
50:04 Building Trust and Communication in Data Work
53:12 Quick Fire Round: Insights and Opinions
56:11 Key Takeaways and Final Thoughts
Amanda Makulec website - https://www.amandamakulec.com/
Amanda Makulec LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/abmakulec/
Andy Cotgreave LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/acotgreave/
How to Speak Data - https://howtospeakdata.com/
How to Speak Data Newsletter - https://acotgreave.substack.com/
Andy's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqhn4yE-8QS3U1b7Jn1WItQ
Dashboards That Deliver - https://www.dashboardsthatdeliver.com/
Viz Responsibly (Amanda's Substack) - https://vizresponsibly.substack.com/
Chart Chat Newsletter - https://chartchatlive.substack.com/
Data Visualisation Society - https://www.datavisualizationsociety.org/
Amanda's Nightingale article - https://nightingaledvs.com/has-data-storytelling-reached-its-peak/
Iraq's Bloody Toll by Simon Scarr - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybwh4lejYO4
Empire of AI by Karen Hao - https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460331/empire-of-ai-by-hao-karen/9781802064650
Weapons of Math Destruction by Cathy O'Neil - https://www.amazon.com/Weapons-Math-Destruction-Increases-Inequality/dp/0553418815
By Fiona Crocker & Sarah Burnett | co-founders, dub dub dataAre your dashboards actually driving decisions? Or are they beautifully built artefacts that nobody uses? In this episode of unDUBBED, Sarah and Fiona sit down with two of the most respected voices in data communication to tackle one of the industry's most uncomfortable questions: do dashboards actually work?
Amanda Makulec is a data visualisation leader with 15 years of experience and a founding board member and former executive director of the Data Visualisation Society. Andy Cotgreave spent 20 years in data and analytics, 15 of them at Tableau, before co-founding How to Speak Data. Together they co-host Chart Chat - so yes, they have opinions.
The conversation digs into the discovery and prototyping work that must happen before anyone opens a tool, the difference between story finding and storytelling, and why reducing friction often beats adding features. They also get into AI's messy, exhilarating, and frankly terrifying impact on data work.
Whether you build dashboards, manage a team that does, or quietly suspect nobody reads your reports - this one's for you. Amanda and Andy are also co-authors of the Big Book of Dashboards and Dashboards That Deliver.
amanda makulec, andy cotgreave, dashboards that deliver, big book of dashboards, why dashboards fail, dashboard design, data communication, data visualisation, story finding vs storytelling, AI and data analytics, future of dashboards, dashboard strategy, user centred design, discovery before development, reducing data friction, data trust, data decision making, how to speak data, chart chat, data visualisation society, datafam, unDUBBED, dub dub data, dashboard best practices, data storytelling
00:00 Introduction to Dashboards and Their Value
08:35 The Failure of Dashboards: Insights and Statistics
19:23 Redefining Dashboards: Integration and User Experience
21:54 Teaching Data Visualization Workshops
24:02 The Future of Dashboards
33:38 Data Communication vs. Data Visualization
44:26 AI and the Role of Data Teams
45:10 The Rapid Evolution of AI Technology
47:04 Balancing Productivity and Ethical Concerns in AI
47:51 The Importance of Human Connection in Data Analysis
50:04 Building Trust and Communication in Data Work
53:12 Quick Fire Round: Insights and Opinions
56:11 Key Takeaways and Final Thoughts
Amanda Makulec website - https://www.amandamakulec.com/
Amanda Makulec LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/abmakulec/
Andy Cotgreave LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/acotgreave/
How to Speak Data - https://howtospeakdata.com/
How to Speak Data Newsletter - https://acotgreave.substack.com/
Andy's YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqhn4yE-8QS3U1b7Jn1WItQ
Dashboards That Deliver - https://www.dashboardsthatdeliver.com/
Viz Responsibly (Amanda's Substack) - https://vizresponsibly.substack.com/
Chart Chat Newsletter - https://chartchatlive.substack.com/
Data Visualisation Society - https://www.datavisualizationsociety.org/
Amanda's Nightingale article - https://nightingaledvs.com/has-data-storytelling-reached-its-peak/
Iraq's Bloody Toll by Simon Scarr - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybwh4lejYO4
Empire of AI by Karen Hao - https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460331/empire-of-ai-by-hao-karen/9781802064650
Weapons of Math Destruction by Cathy O'Neil - https://www.amazon.com/Weapons-Math-Destruction-Increases-Inequality/dp/0553418815