This is a new format inside of the Under the Pines Podcast series.

For parents, fathers, people that think about the way they want to show up in this world, the way they want to show up for their kids on a daily basis,

for parents that want to be good rolemodels, that question the norm, that want to keep improving and growing.

for fathers that want the best for their kids and do not settle for mediocrity.

we dont want to accept the regular school systems as the status quo since we believe there is plenty of room for improvement

lets talk about it, lets exchange ideas and thoughts

From two fathers, with love

Best,

Michael & Max