Derek had a great chat with musician Brooke Penrose about all kinds of things from making a record by yourself to the terrors of NOT helicopter parenting.

Brooke is the singer and Guitarist in the Melbourne based rock band Saint Jude, the owner of Captain B studios and does magnificent illustrations.

Thanks to Yarra Arts for the Smarty Grants help that allowed us to equip ourselves to send recording gear to remote dads.

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