Dadville with Dave Barnes and Jon McLaughlin

Danny Wuerffel's résumé reads like a movie that would be too perfect to believe. He won four straight SEC titles at Florida, a national championship, and the 1996 Heisman Trophy. He's in the College Football Hall of Fame, and there's a road named after him. In this episode of Dadville, Dave and Jon ask what it's like to live that and then decide what comes next.

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Welcome back to Dadville! In this episode, we’re balancing a little benevolent self-promotion with essential dad business. First up, we share our upcoming Christmas tour dates—from Jon’s live debut in Hoover, Alabama to Dave’s return to the Schermerhorn in Nashville.

Next, 44-year-old Jon details wielding a new $10 drywall saw to carve out a 6-foot hole in his wall, fix a leaking PVC pipe with IKEA kids' table scraps, and disassemble his dryer using neighbor Andrew’s borrowed multimeter. Then, we officially convene "Etiquette Court" to rule on life's burning social dilemmas.

We debate whether it's okay to ghost a party, why swiping phone photos leads to unwanted rash pictures, the glory of 2x-speed voice memos, splitting checks when you only drink "horse tea", and why touching another man’s thermostat is an absolute crime. Grab your tools, check your manners, and enjoy the show!

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In this episode of Dadville, we sat down with counselor and family friend Will Mooney to talk about what it actually takes to show up well for our kids. We dive deep into the core truth that "more is caught than taught"—our children mirror our emotional health far more than our verbal lectures. Will opens up about his journey into counseling, helping us unpack shadow selves, old personal baggage, and inevitable parenting ruptures (including an infamous milk-throwing incident!). 

From overanalyzing innocent spouse questions about water bottles to surviving school drop-off lines, we discuss why doing internal self-work is the ultimate parenting strategy. We explore how vulnerability and honest repair model resilience, why we don't need to act like unfazed cowboys, and why no parent should navigate this journey alone. Join us for a funny, deeply honest, and practical conversation about turning daily chaos into meaningful growth and fatherhood connection.

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This week, we sit down with our good friend Robert Cunningham—pastor, writer, speaker, and founder of Christ for Kentucky. We kick things off with a crucial parenting debate: can YouTube piano tutorials replace traditional music lessons? Then, Robert gets honest about making a massive career pivot away from a comfortable pastorship with four kids and zero financial safety net to launch his own ministry. We also dig into his incredible work erasing $250 million in medical debt for Kentucky families, why future generations might judge our smartphone habits like lead paint, and how we can approach complex cultural debates around faith and identity with disarming humility. It’s a funny, honest, and thought-provoking conversation on raising boys, trusting God, and navigating major life transitions. Grab your favorite cup of coffee and join us in Dadville!

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Topics

00:00 – Welcome to Dadville & The Great Piano Lesson Debate

03:45 – Introducing Robert Cunningham

07:30 – Navigating the Career Pivot Without a Safety Net

18:15 – Reimagining Wealth Stewardship & Kingdom Investment

26:00 – Erasing \$250 Million in Medical Debt for Kentucky Families

36:30 – Public Strategy, Age Verification, and Protecting Kids from Tech Addiction

46:15 – Moving Beyond Online Echo Chambers

53:00 – The Beauty of Christian Ethics & Theology of the Body

1:01:30 – Deconstructing the Modern Identity Fallacy

1:18:00 – Grace, Complexity, and Wholehearted Discipleship

1:30:00 – Wrapping Up in Dadville

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We’re catching up on the back-to-school flow and having some honest, vulnerable talks about our 40s. We laugh about the exact ways we are becoming our dads, from driving like grandmas to stockpiling ten of everything in the garage. We also reflect on what we’d tell our younger 25-year-old selves (hint: relax!) and why we need to stop focusing so much on the worries "just out of frame".

Finally, we draft our ultimate Dadville Hall of Fame, sharing our favorite dad gear like sleep machines, Nike Cortez shoes, and our family-favorite card game, Play Nine. Grab a spoonful of peanut butter and join us!

Since we spent so much time laughing about our inherited traits, would you like to create a personalized "Are You Becoming Your Dad?" quiz to see how your own habits stack up against our slow driving, lawn maintenance standards, and medicine cabinet stockpiles?

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Today, we sat down with entrepreneur and author Jordan Raynor, and honestly, we had so much fun reminiscing about Jordan's freshman year at Florida State that we practically skipped our own intro. Once we got past the twenty years of nostalgia, Jordan totally reframed how we look at our daily grind.

We talked about why our Monday-through-Friday work has intrinsic value to God—meaning Dave's songwriting and Jon's upcoming Christmas shows are deeply sacred, not just secular. Jordan shared incredible, practical advice for staying present with our kids, like holding "stop-doing" meetings and converting our smartphones into temporary landlines. Our absolute favorite takeaway? The liberating truth that we can peacefully leave "unfinished symphonies" behind in this life because eternity is filled with purposeful, joyful work.

So grab a seat in Dadville—you won't want to miss this episode!

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Welcome back to Dadville! Today, we’re sitting down with our incredibly learned friend, Ian Morgan Cron. We usually try to keep things light and funny, but Ian brought some serious "strings on the bridge" energy to this one. As an author, psychotherapist, former priest, and Dove Award-winning songwriter, he’s basically a vocational tossed salad.

We dive deep into his complicated childhood with an alcoholic father, how we all inevitably screw up our kids, and why we need to let everyone—and ourselves—out of the penalty box. Jon got to geek out over being a fellow Enneagram Four, and Dave sat up a little straighter to show off his youthful "vigor". Truly, Ian reminded us that we’re just growing up alongside our kids, and that at the end of the day, we're in good hands. Enjoy this episode with the lovely man of permission himself!

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We’ve officially lost control of the microphones. Welcome to a special episode of Dadville—or as our daughters Zanna and Liv have rebranded it, Kidville. We thought we were the consummate podcasters, but the girls immediately put us in the hot seat to expose our deepest, most embarrassing secrets.

We're talking about Dave pre-unwrapping a pocketful of Jolly Ranchers during church hymns so they don’t crackle, and our classic grocery store panic calls because we can't find the basil. Nothing was safe—from Ringo Starr’s lack of outfit "curb appeal" to the time Ireland's Starbucks cold foam tasted exactly like cardboard. They even recap Liv's legendary Shake Shack sprint in Chicago and grill us on our favorite child.

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In this episode, the fellas welcome financial expert Rachel Cruze to discuss the intersection of money, mindset, and family. As the daughter of Dave Ramsey, Cruze shares insights on growing up with a "money guy" and how she has carved her own path through best-selling books and speaking.

Rachel talks about how money is less about math and more about behaviour, focusing on intentional parenting through "commissions" rather than allowances and the "half-car rule". The trio delves into the struggle of navigating social media pressure and defining a family’s financial "baseline" in a world of "infinity pools". Cruze also provides tactical advice for marriages, urging couples to align on shared goals and use budgeting to find permission to spend. This deep dive offers a roadmap for families to build a legacy of contentment and financial peace.

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In this episode, the fellas sit down with Charlie Worsham, the CMA’s reigning Musician of the Year and a true "multihyphenate" talent. Charlie shares his incredible trajectory, from winning national banjo titles at age 12 to playing in the bands of legends like Vince Gill. He dives deep into his "13-year-old self rule," a mental practice that helps him maintain gratitude for his career, even on the hardest days.

The trio then chats about the "hard shift" of returning home from the road and the intentional ways he is showing up for his children through heartfelt journaling and obsessive financial planning. Whether discussing his new independent record, Once Upon a Second Time Around, or the sociology of corporate gigs, Charlie offers a masterclass in humility, resilience, and the pursuit of a meaningful musical community.

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